Faeser at Maischberger: What FIFA boss Infantino told her about the armband

Disgraced, made fun of, laughed at: never before has a German football team snuck home from a World Cup so bewildered. Interior and Sports Minister Nancy Faeser was there in Qatar, but today she is supposed to talk primarily about migrants willing to stay and subversive citizens of the Reich.

The guests

▶︎ Nancy Faser (52, SPD). The Federal Minister of the Interior tweeted: “We defend ourselves with all our might against the enemies of democracy. The investigations allow a glimpse into the abyss of a terrorist threat from Reich citizens!”

▶︎ Professor Johannes Vogel (59). The general director of the Berlin Natural History Museum has been warning for years: “We can no longer wait, we have to do it. There is nothing more political today than nature!”

▶︎ Arved Fuchs (69). The adventurer and polar expert reports from the North Sea coast: “The “climate dike” is being built, the Halligen are thrown up. Coastal protection must be rethought!”

▶︎ Hannah Betheke (42). For the editor (“Zeit”), the “excitement” about the World Cup and climate change shows: “The debates are becoming more and more moral. But that does not serve the cause, but only one’s own self-righteousness.”

▶︎ Mickey Beisenherz (45). The moderator (n-tv) blasphemes about the mute gesture of the kickers: “We want to set an example, but with as few consequences as possible…”

▶︎ Tina Hassel (58). The head of the ARD studio in Berlin boasts that she “enjoys stirring things up”.

Three women + three men = perfect gender proportion. Also sporty the right mix? The Zoff-O-Meter hopes for information without a fuss!

Most macabre start

Beisenherz doesn’t shy away from any punchline today either: After an ARD clip about the raid on bourgeois putsch planners, the man in the red turtleneck fools intrepidly: “When I heard that, I was glad that the Bundeswehr didn’t have any ammunition!” Furtive giggling In the round.

The “n-tv” presenter promptly goes one better: “Gloria von Thurn und Taxis and Beatrix von Storch are no longer the most terrible aristocrats in Germany,” he scoffs about the alleged coup prince Heinrich von Reuss. The nobleman shares the jacket and also the “gentleman’s outfitter” with the AfD grandee Alexander Gauland.

Most noticeable relief

Federal Minister of the Interior Faeser appears as if in official attire in collarless creamy white on an elegant full body black. Your satisfied balance: “It was a very, very big blow, and it is right and proper that democracy is so defensive.” Boom!

Most oppressive situation report

“What makes it so dangerous is that there was a military arm, with people who used to be in the Bundeswehr, so they can also handle weapons,” she says. “Quite a few owned guns quite legally. That’s what made the explosiveness. Great work by the emergency services!” That gets the first round of applause.

The minister reports on immediate measures against potential putschists: “I am currently in the process of changing the disciplinary law so that we can get rid of such enemies of the constitution more quickly. That often takes far too long.” Your example: Thuringia’s AfD boss “Mr. Höcke, who is still in school service. That makes me a bit stunned!”

Most shocking analysis

The talk show host lists the accused: “A judge, doctors, a pilot, a gourmet chef, several lawyers, even a singer and then this prince. That’s already the middle of society.” How could that be?

“All studies have always shown that right-wing extremist ideas can also be accepted in the center,” explains Faeser. Apparently there is also a connection with the group that wanted to kidnap Health Minister Lauterbach: “The Corona debate has radicalized people again!”

Most realistic forecast

“These are people who didn’t really come from the right-wing extremist milieu,” the minister says. “Their common idea was to take action against the state. That came out of the pandemic, out of opposition to compulsory vaccination.” Phew…

“Has the spook gone since this big action, one of the biggest acts of terrorism since the Federal Republic came into existence?” Maischberger wants to know. The minister has little hope: “I don’t think so,” she says. “Now the real work begins. There will definitely still be contacts there.”

Most personal confession

“You and your family have received death threats,” recalls the talk show host. “How concerned are you that there is potential for violence against you and your family?”

“It’s very big,” Faeser admits without hesitation and refers to the murder of her former colleague Walter Lübcke: “That’s why you always have to take such threats very seriously. Personally, I don’t look too much at my own threat, but I’m always very sensitive when it comes to my family.”

Most Confident Announcement

Regarding the migration crisis, the minister stated: “We already have a huge labor shortage, but we are very progressive. We are creating the most modern immigration law in Europe!”

“There should be a point system,” says Faeser. “It should be about qualification, about high integration performance if you can speak the language well, but also about the connection to the job or apprenticeship.”

Most transparent evasive maneuver

Maischberger quotes criticism from Bavaria: “We have a million unemployed foreigners in the country, why not get them to work first instead of getting new ones now?”

“We have over a million refugee Ukrainian women with small children,” the minister replies cunningly.

But they are not meant at all, the talk show host interjects, but Faeser skillfully makes the Scholz and just keeps talking: “It’s difficult when you have small children to take jobs without a spouse.” Uff!

Most serious adherence to the rules

“The other thing is that we want to see that we get young Germans to graduate from school,” the minister quickly added.

This fulfills an important point of the traffic light operating regulations: If possible, never say anything about the many young migrants in social systems and criminal statistics! No grist for right-wing mills!

Most mocking swipe

“As a very modern progressive coalition, we deal differently with the issue of migration,” the minister then boasts.

Maischberger countered with the accusation by the FDP General Secretary Bijan Djir-Sarai that now is “not the time to simplify citizenship law” after there has been “no progress so far” in combating illegal migration. The talk show host wants to know whether the coalition partner has a point.

“In my view, there is no connection,” Faeser replies coolly. Sometimes it helps in a coalition “to look, what have we agreed, what have we done.” Boom!

Daring attempt at justification

Finally, it is about the football catastrophe in Qatar. Maischberger’s pointed question: “Do you have the impression that the pressure, and therefore you too, are jointly responsible?”

“No, I don’t think so,” replies Faeser unperturbed. “It’s about athletic performance, I would always separate that.”

Her explanation: “But what was important to me, that’s why I flew to Qatar very early, before the game: I tried, together with the DFB, to decouple this debate about the observance of human rights in Qatar from the football event.” Uff !

Most embarrassing laugh

Then the minister beats her chest innocently: “It’s not the job of soccer players to do politics,” she lectures briskly. “That’s our job. It was important to decouple that!”

“But you didn’t succeed,” Maischberger shoves her off and shows the photo of FIFA boss Infantino begging his arm over the DFB captain’s armband “One Love”. groan!

Most informative conversation log

“What did he say then?” Maischberger investigates.

“He asked: Is that the bandage?” reports Faeser. “I said: Oh, you don’t even know her? But you banned them!”

Maischberger finds that too naive: “Did you really believe that he had never seen her before?”

The minister shakes her head thoughtfully. “I don’t know if he looked at them or whatever,” she then replies. “Anyway, I said to him, ‘It’s not that bad, is it? He said it wasn’t ready to do that yet. And I said: yes, you could have decided differently.” Amen!

Happy slap

The enthusiasm at Maischberger’s media counter about German Qatar politics is limited. Beisenherz thinks of Faeser’s human rights campaign with Habeck’s gas deal: “You blink, but turn in the other direction!”

“Rather empty symbolic politics”, also etches ARD-Hassel. “A completely acidic moral debate!”, “Zeit”-Bethke gets angry.

Last Stand

Finally, the nature and species conservationists are finally allowed to paint their alarming scenarios. “Two men who have dedicated their lives to the topic of nature,” she introduces the talk show host, “and then their names are: fox and bird!” Cheerfulness in the studio!

“The ice is melting dramatically fast,” warns polar researcher Fuchs. It is also not possible to designate marine protected areas because Russia and China are against it. His innocent idea: “That’s why you have to rethink the principle of unanimity.” Toi toi toi!

Prof. Vogel, a biologist with an XXL version of Salvador Dalí’s famous twisted mustache, laments the extinction of 150 species a day. And: The bat that triggered the corona pandemic in China only immigrated there as a result of climate change. Beautiful prospects!

quote of the evening

“There’s the nasty word that the turning point in time is actually a turning point in slow motion.” Tina Hassel

Conclusion

Barrier-free all-round debate through all available moral backdrops. That was a talk show in the René Adler category: “Everything is highly crystallized”.